2013 Washington Events Schedule

[TYVEK]

Originally Posted by Danni

YES, the ONE advantage my event will have is that you guys are Adv and Pro fields... BUT I have personally heard from MANY MANY players (ADV and PRO) that have said "Danni I'd love to come, but up against Shelton I have to choose Shelton" and I totally understand that, your payouts are sick and we love the event too.

If we had always top out at 70 something players in past years, we would try and take the hit of losing the players to your event, but at 50 players we couldn't take a 20 person hit.

I feel we have always published our event as well as we can, it's more about our location to the greater Seattle area.

It is what it is, and I wish you had chosen a different date since you're not a multi-use park. You have a great and successful event, it's not your fault you're popular. I just have very little wiggle room for dates at my location.

first i have to say that i am in no way involved with the shelton event. i know the guys that put it on, but thats it. so my comment is coming from an outside perspective purely in the interest of Disc Golf as a sport and Disc Golfers that like to play.

dont cancel your event!! do you really realize just how many disc golfers there are in the puget sound area? the people that come on the forums regularly are a very small percentage. sure there is the crowd of tournament players that travel around the state each summer for tournaments, but even they represent a very small percentage of players. you might not get some of the "pros" that you want to attend, but dont take away the opportunity to play your event for the other people that would have signed up that are not interested in travelling all the way to shelton.

i still hold to my comment on advertising, get the word out. and then keep the word out every chance you get, im sure you will be suprised at how many people you could get at your event. just do your thing for the people up north, make that your focus.

[WestsoundBT]

Originally Posted by TYVEK

dont cancel your event!! do you really realize just how many disc golfers there are in the puget sound area? the people that come on the forums regularly are a very small percentage. sure there is the crowd of tournament players that travel around the state each summer for tournaments, but even they represent a very small percentage of players. you might not get some of the "pros" that you want to attend, but dont take away the opportunity to play your event for the other people that would have signed up that are not interested in travelling all the way to shelton.

i still hold to my comment on advertising, get the word out. and then keep the word out every chance you get, im sure you will be suprised at how many people you could get at your event. just do your thing for the people up north, make that your focus.

Danni, any thought to "resetting" the tourney model to match the potential changes/attendance risks? That is, if you're still game for doing that. If part of the conflict is your own desire to be at Shelton yourself,... then you know that's another layer to this.

any potential to downscale perhaps to take the risk level down? Instead of setting a break even attendance point at say 50 (or whatever it was, maybe 72 was break even, I hope not), find a model that takes it down to 35?

Perhaps.. preserve tradition and continuity even at the expense of scaling back slightly. Maybe more grassroots oriented feel? Could be done. I know its tough to swallow the idea of being a downer year when we always want to be growing toward the limelight.

Plus, when Shelton fills (perhaps quickly) it might be a great outlet for some.

[Danni]

Originally Posted by WestsoundBT

Danni, any thought to "resetting" the tourney model to match the potential changes/attendance risks? That is, if you're still game for doing that. If part of the conflict is your own desire to be at Shelton yourself,... then you know that's another layer to this.

any potential to downscale perhaps to take the risk level down? Instead of setting a break even attendance point at say 50 (or whatever it was, maybe 72 was break even, I hope not), find a model that takes it down to 35?

Perhaps.. preserve tradition and continuity even at the expense of scaling back slightly. Maybe more grassroots oriented feel? Could be done. I know its tough to swallow the idea of being a downer year when we always want to be growing toward the limelight.

Plus, when Shelton fills (perhaps quickly) it might be a great outlet for some.

Yes, we considered a lot of those ideas, and honestly we have a "unique" situation here, with our "local/ garssroots players". We are a military area, which means by nature we have a "transient" club.

You are correct though we COULD scale it down, but we have only ever attempted one event a year, so we really don't love the idea of a smaller scale.

Also in previous years I would have done like you suggested and took the hit and kept the tournament ball rolling as it were, BUT this was to be the last event for us as TD's. Like 80% of our club, Tim is military and we are OUTTA HERE come early spring 2014.

We loved our time here, and tried to bring a positive face to disc golf in our local area. We hope the locals will keep the ball rolling after we are gone.


I appreciate all the support and I hope I'm not coming off "snotty" I DO truly "feel the love" and know you guys are trying to genuinely help with sound advice... and AGAIN, I'm not upset with Shelton either.


We're just gonna play as much as we can, and "say our good-byes" to all the locals. It's been an amazing 4.5 years!

[spanky11]

Danni I'm not missing the RIO4 lol move it up early? July is a really slow month in the NW? Keep that in mind. Plus camping in your yard will be warm too lol for those who haven't been RIO 3 is an Awsome event great people tons of fun and games and amazing hosts

Jason

[spanky11]

Danni move it up earlier? Maybe July sometime? I can't miss this event it was a blast last year and don't want to muss it. For those who haven't been, its a blast of a tournament great course and games and amazing hosts.

Jason

[WestsoundBT]

Originally Posted by Danni

Yes, we considered a lot of those ideas, and honestly we have a "unique" situation here, with our "local/ garssroots players". We are a military area, which means by nature we have a "transient" club.

You are correct though we COULD scale it down, but we have only ever attempted one event a year, so we really don't love the idea of a smaller scale.

Also in previous years I would have done like you suggested and took the hit and kept the tournament ball rolling as it were, BUT this was to be the last event for us as TD's. Like 80% of our club, Tim is military and we are OUTTA HERE come early spring 2014.

We loved our time here, and tried to bring a positive face to disc golf in our local area. We hope the locals will keep the ball rolling after we are gone.


I appreciate all the support and I hope I'm not coming off "snotty" I DO truly "feel the love" and know you guys are trying to genuinely help with sound advice... and AGAIN, I'm not upset with Shelton either.


We're just gonna play as much as we can, and "say our good-byes" to all the locals. It's been an amazing 4.5 years!

Danni,
I didn't know that you guys were moving out of area, I know you had mentioned this as a last time personally giving a run at directing. I think its safe to say that all of us down in Kitsap understand the transient stay aspect pretty well, and I imagine its even more present up on the Island.

With that in mind, I totally understand the hesitancy. Yeah, make the rounds and say your goodbyes to everyone in the tourney family.

Looking ahead for Whidbey... perhaps a more grassroots style of yearly event may in the end may be more sustainable for the area after you're gone.

A large (or growing) cash-added high skill driven event model is daunting for many to run, and sometimes leads to stomach lining eating thoughts about ending up in the red. You referenced "taking the hit" ...to which I hope that was in event status and not in a negative bottom revenue line. Because that certainly is not sustainable - thats special and unique charity!

Perhaps this year could have a small something that weekend - maybe you and Tim find someone(or a team) who could take the reigns for something in the next few years to come - give them the tools, in a sustainable plan and guidance, and let them try out their wings solo this year with you guys as a support crutch before and after the event. Then you guys could even come down to the Showdown.

The legacy could be that big thing that was, or it could also be the medium thing that still is.

[Danni]

I'm THRILLED to announce, after a nice swell of support from players AND extraordinary measures by the city park service, that the RISING ISLAND OPEN IV will happen in 2013!!

We will be moving the date to August 24 & 25, but we have the GREEN LIGHT!

We look forward to welcoming you to the "Island" for the 4th year of the RISING ISLAND OPEN!

Of course loads of details to follow ASAP (Sign-ups will start in May) and I hope to have all of the event details by the end of April!

I want to take a second to thank those players that contacted me directly and indirectly with their support of this event... YOU GUYS are the reason I tried so hard to make this happen. In addition NONE of my efforts would have been worth much if it hadn't been for the park service that contact the other users of the park (football and soccer clubs) to request that they have away games on these date to give us use of the entire park!

See you all in August!!

WOW, that means a MONTH of B tiers for Washington in August!! Lets hit some chains!

[JR Stengele]

^ great news! Glad it all worked out...especially for your last year hosting it.