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Old February 1st, 2011, 11:16 PM
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Old February 8th, 2011, 06:00 PM
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dibs on a CFR leopard, the heavier the better.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 09:25 PM
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Alright, time to introduce the course

First off, I present you with exhibit A:



Hole 1 - 568'/596' - Par 4
Starting from near tournament central hole 1 is a longer par hole that you can play fairly aggressively on. The tee shot shoots through a 30' corridor of pines out into an open field with movement from right to left off the tee. Placement isn't super important here, just make sure to hit the window and get good distance.

From there, the short pin is tucked in between deep rough on the left and a few guard pines on the right. The best approach will probably be an understable fairway driver with a slow right roll OR if you are farther out, a lower percentage hyzer which penetrates the guard trees.

To the long pin, you'll be looking at a big uphill pull which needs to finish straight to find the pin. Be sure to scope out this pin placement during the first round so you know where you are headed in round two.

Hole 2 - 159' - Par 3
HUGE contrast to hole 1, this is a short steep downhill shot through a small window. Distance control is key here as most shots will float much farther than expected - an OB path behind the basket is waiting to nab these overthrows.

Hole 3 - 222' - Par 3
Even though it is only 222, this hole plays reverse (and uphill) from 2's fairway. A relatively simple high hyzer for RHBH should nab a birdie here.

Hole 4 - 275' - Par 3
Slightly uphill and rolling from left to right with significant danger from a late mandatory and OB to the right of the fairway. Those who gamble for a birdie will have to confidently throw a slow rolling turnover that cannot hyzer out due to thorns and thick rough on the left side of the fairway. Shots that turn too much will certainly end up with extra strokes from the OB or mandatory.

Hole 5 - 214' - Par 3
Dual route fairway which favors the lefty or sidearm hyzer around large pines. A moderate drop in elevation won't be felt as shots need to be thrown above horizon off the tee. A righty hyzer route is available (and shorter) but gambles much more with evenly spaced guard trees on the right.

Hole 6 - 318' - Par 3
This hole tests distance control with a fast green and dropoff behind the pin (and OB long of the pin). Both righty and lefty throwers will have slow hyzers to the pin which need to slide under a ceiling of trees.

Hole 7 - 270' - Par 3
Yup, the island hole returns! From the top of an open knoll, players will throw down into ampitheatre seating area. The central rows form a natural landing zone with all other shots heading to the drop zone.

While it isn't a technical shot, this hole was designed to get into the players mind in several ways. First, the view from the tee is expansive offering a lot of possibility for shot selection BUT a small rise obscures the green and basket from view. The downhill slope will sneak up on a bunch of players who float too long and wind seems to be a consistent difficulty increasing factor.

Take your measurements...line up your shot...execute with confidence and control...

Hole 8 - 245' - Par 3
A classic tunnel shot through sticky trees on either side of the fairway. A powerful, accurate blast which crosses a small valley and digs into the hill on the other side will offer a putt for 2. Miss the window off the tee and you'll certainly be scrambling for 3.

Hole 9 - 391' - Par 4
A relatively easy par 4 hole that still allows players plenty of opportunities to grab an extra stroke. From the tee the fairway runs uphill around a pinch-point at 300' with OB on the left and overhanging trees to the right. The basket is tucked into a small notch in the trees to the right after rounding the corner.

Hole 10 - 344' - Par 3
Open tee shot which needs to pass through a swiss cheese wall of trees at about 250'. From there, a side hill moving down left ensures that RHBH hyzers aren't going to be putting.

Hole 11 - 474' - Par 4
A huge uphill par 4 hole which may still be extended to a par 5. Either way, the tee shot is a big bomb hyzer for RHBH which leaves a 150'-200' sidearm approach around a group of guard trees and bushes.

Hole 12 - 283' - Par 3
A pretty but fairly easy hyzer into a natural grassy slot in the forest. OB road on the right and guard trees short and left could pose problems for shanked drives.

Hole 13 - 507' - Par 4
The beauty - A huge downhill hole with a well-defined tight fairway that moves slightly right to left at about 350'. OB runs down the entire left side of the fairway and circles around the back of the pin at about 25' behind. The right side is bordered by large trees and thick bushes nearly the length of the hole.

From the tee a small rise will make drives difficult for the RHBH thower with significant potential to hyzer OB. Many will probably elect to throw a safe sidearm or fairway driver off the tee and make a challenge at the green on shot two. Hyperaggressive players may have a chance for eagle with a huge drive that finishes relatively flat or turning.

Hole 14 - 378' - Par 3
An easy finisher and chance to let loose after hole 13 with relatively few penalties. A big hyzer for RHBH should do it!


Oh yeah, and there might just be a mystery hole (and by this I mean, there will be definitely be a mystery hole )
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Old February 9th, 2011, 09:36 PM
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sweet...
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Old February 9th, 2011, 10:04 PM
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If I was at Home Depot right now, I would be in the lumber department. This course is going to kick ass! Great job Andrew and Sheila...and your little dog too...
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Old February 9th, 2011, 10:44 PM
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I'm also looking for metal baskets everyone so if you have one that you can bring OR that I can come pick up from you - please send me a message!
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Old February 10th, 2011, 10:24 PM
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I'm also looking for metal baskets everyone so if you have one that you can bring OR that I can come pick up from you - please send me a message!
How many do you need?
Paul
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Old February 11th, 2011, 02:57 AM
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Layout looking very sneaky...I expected nothing less of you. I can bring my DGA M-14 if we can't rustle up something hardier
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Old February 11th, 2011, 08:26 AM
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Great layout Andrew!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZdeg_fL-I
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Old February 11th, 2011, 08:54 AM
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Haha Don.

Paul (& Papa) - I was hoping not to make you and Papa do all the heavy lifting, I'll send you a message or call this weekend to see how many I end up needing!
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Old February 11th, 2011, 02:59 PM
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Awesome!! We're getting close to the coolest tournament of the year! I better practice lifting Preztel over my head!
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Old February 15th, 2011, 09:57 PM
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Whew, I'm nearly out of discs everyone - I've already sold out of the CFR Birdies and Glow Leopards. I've got a few Destroyers left and one Aviar. If you want PretzelBowl plastic, you'll have to head to everyone's favorite little place because I know they still have some!


Thanks to everyone who helped buy me out, we raised over $300 just through my share of the plastic sales
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Old February 18th, 2011, 10:43 AM
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basic information which might prove helpful for those reading this and going to participate -

the best place to park is in the upper parking lot at Seward Park - it's the closest to Hole #1, and the closet to the back 6.
be sure to bring some boots - if it rained 1 or 2 days before the event, or the day of the event, holes #1-8 will be muddy and sluggish - if you decide to wear tennis shoes, be prepared to get alot of mud on them, and your feet may be wet unless you're wearing water-proof and mud proof socks
i'm just sayin'
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Old February 18th, 2011, 03:18 PM
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basic information which might prove helpful for those reading this and going to participate -

the best place to park is in the upper parking lot at Seward Park - it's the closest to Hole #1, and the closet to the back 6.
be sure to bring some boots - if it rained 1 or 2 days before the event, or the day of the event, holes #1-8 will be muddy and sluggish - if you decide to wear tennis shoes, be prepared to get alot of mud on them, and your feet may be wet unless you're wearing water-proof and mud proof socks
i'm just sayin'
Yup, this is good information. Thank you!
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Old February 21st, 2011, 02:24 PM
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PretzelBowl is right around the corner! I've updated the PDGA list and I also wanted to post up the current wait list in case people are wondering where they rank - I will be placing calls ASAP if I hear about any drop outs.

1 - John Frick
2 - Ray McKillop
3 - Joe Hellickson
4 - Jason Markin
5 - Chris Cox
6 - Shane Johnson
7 - Chris Laurent
8 - Del Santjer
9 - Mark Kilmer
10 - Toby Chef


If you are on the waitlist, you are free to show up on the morning of the tournament and see if there are any no-shows but I really can't open up any new holes and won't create any 5-somes, sorry!

I've also had a couple players request to play the course either in the early morning or during the lunch break - feel free to come out and play on the course so long as we aren't in the middle of a round. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE though exert the utmost care in sending advance spotters and respecting the rights of others in the park. I'll be making this perfectly clear to all participants, but everyone who plays must be on their best behavior
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Old February 22nd, 2011, 11:09 PM
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Weather is looking like low 30's on Saturday and the area is supposed to get hit by snow this week. Doesn't phase me a bit (it's an ice bowl people!!!) but some people might drop because of this, a little FYI for you on the wait list. Anyone else getting super duper excited for this thing? I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to sleep on Friday!!! Praise Sheila and Andrew!
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 11:26 AM
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basic information which might prove helpful for those reading this and going to participate -

the best place to park is in the upper parking lot at Seward Park - it's the closest to Hole #1, and the closet to the back 6.
be sure to bring some boots - if it rained 1 or 2 days before the event, or the day of the event, holes #1-8 will be muddy and sluggish - if you decide to wear tennis shoes, be prepared to get alot of mud on them, and your feet may be wet unless you're wearing water-proof and mud proof socks
i'm just sayin'
You might need these for your boots. Ice axes and crampons are gonna be in order.

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Old February 23rd, 2011, 03:18 PM
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I just got back from playing some of the fairways as best as i could tell by the map and directions. Yep bring some water proof boots. The holes i played were sweet, and not all of them soggy. The wind blowing off Lake Washington was fairly strong and cold. This will be a ice bowl if the weather stays the same... Cant wait!
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Old February 24th, 2011, 08:11 PM
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Exclamation Get ready, be there by 8-8:30!!!!

OK, PretzelBowl is upon us and the Pretzel is readying his favorite jacket to brave the cold! Weather looks to be sunny and dry but quite cold and like other posters have mentioned, be prepared to deal with some soggy areas out there.


I'm just going to reiterate a few IMPORTANT things here:

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Important times: 8:00-8:30 Registration, 8:35-8:45 Players meeting, 9:00 Start
ALL PLAYERS MUST check-in by 8:30 - Some people learned this the hard way in past PretzelBowls, if you haven't checked in by 8:30, your spot is gone!
Questions/Comments to Andrew Rivers at cefire@sbcglobal.net or 630-674-8614
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Old February 25th, 2011, 07:10 PM
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Thanks to Pete Land, Oz, and Capt. Morgans Private Reserve, I cracked a rib last night and won't be able to play in the Pretzelbowl. Dammit!

So, there is at least one spot opening up.

Lake Stevens will still be there in basket spirit!
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